These photos were submitted by one of our customers in British Columbia, Canada. His Cannondale Flash carbon fiber mountain bike weighs in at just shy of 20 pounds without pedals, making this the lightest Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14-equipped bike that we have worked with. The carbon frame is as light as many high-end road frames and the parts spec includes plenty of lightweight carbon bits. The Lefty fork also helps bring the total weight down.
This customer purchased a Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14 from us last summer for his tandem and fell in love with its shifting performance. So, when replacing his mtb this spring, a Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14 was his preferred drive train for the new bike. We built up the wheels and helped troubleshoot a few installation complications.
For the wheels, we laced the Rohloff rear hub and Project 321 Lefty-specific front disc hub into No Tubes Crest rims using Sapim Laser spokes and alloy nipples. This gave the customer a lightweight wheelset to complement the rest of the bike. We have long been fans of the No Tubes rims for their ease of tubeless tire setup and chose the Crest model for this build based on a light weight rider. The Crest model is billed as a general XC rim and is offered in 26", 650b/27.5", and 29" sizes. Its 24.4mm width is typical for an XC rim, but at 340g, it is lighter than just about all other aluminum rims on the market. We generally prefer to use these rims for lighter riders or race day wheels for moderate weight riders. The Laser model is a thin double butted spoke from Sapim that sheds weight without the higher cost of the bladed CX-Ray model and also makes for a more comfortable wheel.
As with many current mountain bike frames, this Cannondale Flash frame has post mounts for the rear brake instead of the traditional international standard mount. This makes our Monkey Bone (or Rohloff Speedbone) incompatible with the frame and the torque arm must be used to keep the rear axle from rotating during use. Normally when using the torque arm, the cable box gets oriented so it points upward and the cables loop up and over the brake caliper and along the left seat stay. This is done because there is interference between the cable box and the torque arm if the cable box is positioned under the dropout for our preferred cable routing along the left chainstay.
On this frame, the position of the post mounts caused interference with the cable box if it was oriented such that the cables would loop up and over the brake caliper. The only cable box orientation that cleared both the torque arm and the post mounts was to point it downwards and loop the cables under the torque arm. We ran into the same issue on this Spot Acme conversion, which also has post mounts instead of an IS mount. Functionally, this orientation shifts just fine, but it does position the cables closer to the ground as well as create a loop that could snag a branch. In the photos, the cables dangle quite far under the torque arm, but the customer has since anchored them to the torque arm with a reusable zip tie as we did with the Spot Acme mentioned above.
Chain tension is controlled by a Beer Components BB30 eccentric. These US-made eccentrics allow a frame with standard vertical dropouts and an oversized BB30 bottom bracket to be set up without a chain tensioner. The only caveat is that you have to use a crankset with a 24-mm integrated spindle, such as the Race Face Turbine; square taper or BB30 cranksets will not work. Also now available from Beer Components is a slightly larger diameter version for Press Fit30 bottom bracket shells, which are becoming the standard shell size for BB30-compatible frames.
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Build details
- Frame: Cannondale Flash carbon fiber
- Fork: Cannondale Lefty Max Carbon XLR
- Headset: Cannondale
- Stem: Cannondale for Lefty
- Handlebar: Ritchey WCS Carbon
- Shifter: Rohloff
- Grips: Ergon GP1 for Rohloff
- Seatpost: Ritchey WCS Carbon
- Saddle: Tioga Spyder
- Front Hub: Project 321 Lefty
- Rear hub: Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14
- Spokes: Sapim Laser
- Nipples: Sapim Alloy
- Rims: No Tubes Crest
- Tires: Schwalbe Racing Ralph
- Rear Skewer: Shimano XT
- Cranks: Race Face Turbine
- Bottom Bracket: Race Face X-Type
- Chainring: Race Face Single
- Chain: Wippermann 8sX
- Brakes: Avid XX
- Rotors: Hope/Avid 160/160mm
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ReplyDeleteI have been riding my Cannondale Flash Rohloff bike on the west coast in conditions that normally trashes drive trains every few weeks. I haven't had as much a minute of trouble with the Rohloff hub. I really like everything about the hub and I am 100%'sold on the technology. Neil does an amazing job making sure things are put together perfectly. Thanks!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm also installing the rohloff on my cannondale flash, i'm using your setup as a guideline. I hope to get the bike complete in two weeks. Thanks for the detailed description and pictures!
ReplyDeleteGood luck with the build. It should be a blast to ride!
DeleteWauw, i thought it was not possible on my flash carbon.. but now it it.
ReplyDeleteyou make my day. i'm also gonna upgrade my cannondale flash carbon 3 2012 with it.
Hello everyone. Really nice to see the Flash+Rohloff, especially in this set-up; very elegant way to deal with the inevitable wait gain normally involved in Rohloff bikes. Had a lot of chainsuck issues last autumn driving the mostly very muddy Dutch trails. Would there be a possibility to post a more detailed picture of the rear part of the drivetrain, as seen from the left side (brake caliper with gear box and torque arm together)? Thanks for posting the subject, it's very inspiring to me, considering doing the same with my Flash. Many thanks also if it's possible to bring up more pictures!
ReplyDeleteMartijn Clotscher
I do not have any additional photos, but the rear end setup will look like these:
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You can use a reusable zip-tie, twisted wire, or some other removable device to hold the shift cables to the torque arm.
Thanks a lot! It would be really nice to find a solution to work around the issues encountered on a post mount frame. The Taurine in the following url looks so neat: http://veloptimal.com/forum/images/uploads/cvgeorget/IMG_0089_123.jpg. Is this really just a matter of post mount vs. international standard (wich I assume the Taurine has?)?
ReplyDeleteYes, the post mount makes life difficult for Rohloff users. Since the Taurine frame has an ISO mount, it uses a Monkey Bone for a clean setup. The Monkey Bone doesn't work with a post mount frame, so the bulky torque arm needs to be used.
DeleteWhat is the total weight of this bike?
ReplyDeleteCan't remember the exact weight, but it was pretty close to 20 lbs.
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ReplyDeleteHi, will a BB30 XX1 crankset work with the eccentric BB you mention?
ReplyDeleteDoes the frame hold the moment arm of the Rohloff?
Eccentric does not work with BB30. Needs a crank with 24mm spindle.
DeleteYes, the frame will hold the moment arm, which is long to minimize the force at the end.